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fall service on a four stroke outboard, and the thing about running it dry

started by yamaha_150_guy · Sep 21, 2025
Y yamaha_150_guyOP SkipperOshkosh, WIPosts 24Joined Oct 2025 #1

new here, came over from a fishing board because half of my friends run tubes now. i do my own fall service and every year somebody at the landing tells me i am doing it wrong, so here is my list and you can tell me where i am wrong.

this is on a four stroke, 150, about 620 hours, and i do it the same on my father in law's 90.

  • fill the tank to about 95 percent and put the stabilizer in at the dock, then run the motor fifteen minutes so the treated fuel is through the lines, the rail and the injectors. a full tank leaves no room for the air to sweat inside it.
  • change the engine oil and filter while it is still hot from that run. the crud is suspended and comes out with it. cold oil leaves half of what you are trying to remove in the pan.
  • drop the lower unit gear lube. this is the one i argue about.
  • grease every zerk, the steering tube gets the most because that is what seizes.
  • check the anodes, replace anything more than about half gone. mine at 620 hours are on the second set.
  • store it trimmed all the way down so the water drains out of the exhaust and the leg.
  • battery out, on a tender on the bench, never on the concrete floor because my dad said so and i have never checked whether that is true.

what i do not do is fog it. and i do not run it dry. tell me why i should.

B bill_at_the_marina DockmasterDetroit Lakes, MNPosts 84Joined Sep 2025 #2

your list is the list. two things from the bench side.

the gear lube in the fall is the single most valuable thing on there and it is not because of the lube. when you pull that drain screw you are reading the seal. clean and honey colored, you are done. milky or the color of coffee with cream, you have water in the housing, and if you leave that in there over a Wisconsin winter it freezes, expands, and cracks the case or wipes a bearing. we cut open two every spring from people who did their lube in april. one of them was a 2019 with 240 hours on it.

same reason to do it in the fall even if the lube is fine, you have five months to get a seal kit and a shop appointment instead of finding out on opening weekend when every shop within sixty miles is three weeks out.

running it dry is two stroke advice from carburetor days and it hurts a modern EFI motor. the fuel in a four stroke rail is what keeps the injectors and the high pressure pump wet. run it out and you leave varnish in the injectors and you can cook the fuel pump doing it. leave the treated fuel in it. that is the whole answer.

fogging on a fuel injected four stroke, the manual for your motor will tell you whether it wants it and how. some want it through the intake, some do not want it at all. do what your book says, not what the guy at the landing says. concrete floor thing is a myth from when battery cases were tar and rubber, but a bench is easier on your back anyway.

K first_toon_kevin DeckhandFargo, NDPosts 9Joined Sep 2025 #3

question from the cheap seats. my boat lands in about two weeks and it goes straight into storage without me ever putting it in the water, which feels like a strange way to start.

the fuel question. every station around Fargo is 10 percent ethanol unless i drive out to a non oxy pump, which there are two of. does it matter enough to haul six gallon cans, and how long does treated pump gas actually keep. i have heard thirty days and i have heard two years from people who both sounded sure.

J lift_and_canopy_jo SkipperBrainerd, MNPosts 29Joined Sep 2025 #4

adding the boat half, since the motor is only part of what freezes.

pull the drain plug and leave it out, and hang it somewhere you will find it in may. water sitting in the bilge area of a pontoon deck between the tubes is how bunk boards and deck plywood rot from below.

if you leave it on the lift, crank it high, and take the canopy cover off after the first hard freeze or the first wet snow will fill it and bend the frame. i have replaced two canopy frames for neighbors who left the cover on through a November snow. a canopy is a roof, it is not a snow load rated roof.

mice. steel wool in the console opening, and take every crumb and every rope out of the storage lockers. i had a family move into a bench seat one winter and they chewed the wire loom for the nav lights, which is a fun thing to discover at dusk.

S stan_from_brainerd SkipperBrainerd, MNPosts 41Joined Sep 2025 #5

i pay the marina 310 dollars to do all of this and i am not embarrassed about it. i am 71 and i do not want to be on my back on a cold slab with gear lube running down my wrist.

what i would say to anybody who pays somebody else: ask for the old gear lube in a jar, or at least ask them what it looked like. one year mine came back with the note that the port drain was slightly cloudy and they had done it twice. that is the same information bill is talking about, you just have to ask for it instead of assuming the invoice line means somebody looked.

Y yamaha_150_guyOP SkipperOshkosh, WIPosts 24Joined Oct 2025 #6

everything is put away here. gear lube came out clean both units, anodes had maybe a third left so they got replaced, and i did read the fogging section in my book this year instead of guessing. mine wants it and i had been skipping it for six years, so bill cost me an evening and probably saved me a cylinder.

kevin, on the fuel: the ethanol matters less than the water does, and what pulls water into a tank is a half empty tank breathing all winter. treated and full, four to six months is fine and i have run may fuel in september with no trouble. non oxy is nicer if it is convenient and it is not worth hauling cans across town for. keep the vent closed if your tank has a valve and do not leave the fill cap gasket cracked.

anybody who wants the factory numbers instead of ours, the owner manuals are free to download at yamahaoutboards.com and the other builders have the same thing on their sites. the intervals are in the back of the book and they are shorter than most people run.

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